Powering the Channel: Vince Bradley, CEO of Abundant IoT Talks Energy and IoT

Revolutionizing the Channel with Energy and IoT: A Conversation with Vince Bradley

In this episode of The Wireless Way, host Chris Whitaker sits down with Vince Bradley, Founder and CEO of Abundant IoT, to discuss the transformative convergence of IoT, energy, mobility, and cloud solutions in today's tech landscape. Vince shares his extensive background in the technology services industry, including the success of Abundant IoT’s energy-focused solutions (EIoT), and the critical role of energy management and sustainability in modern enterprises. The conversation covers the state of the channel, the impact of AI and data centers on energy consumption, and practical advice for partners looking to expand their offerings to include energy solutions. Vince emphasizes the tremendous revenue and retention opportunities in the evolving tech landscape, underscoring the importance of staying ahead of industry shifts.

00:00 Introduction and Guest Bio
01:02 Vince Bradley's Career Journey
03:40 The State of the Channel and Industry Insights
06:28 Energy and IOT Convergence
11:58 Energy Solutions and Market Trends
20:26 Opportunities in Multi-Dwelling Units (MDUs)
22:18 Final Thoughts and Wrap-Up

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chris_1_10-28-2025_101623 0:51

Welcome to another episode of The Wireless Way. I'm your host, Chris Whitaker, and yes, I'm eternally grateful that you're here. I'm grateful for my. guest Vince Bradley known him for years. A lot of you in the US channel probably know Vince Bradley, right? And if you don't, just a little bit about him. Always like to read a little bio. You know, Vince Bradley as the founder and CEO of abundant IOT, you know, very appropriate for the wireless way. it's a technology services company headquartered in Los Angeles that specializes in the convergence of IOT Energy. Yes, I said energy. We're gonna hit on that, no doubt. Mobility and cloud solutions, everything that is just kind of happening around us. A Northern California native and graduate of University of California, Los Angeles, UCLA. Vince launched Abundant iot in 2021 with the intention of creating what he calls EIOT, that's energy focused IO OT solutions that deliver both technological and sustainable impact. Two things that we just gotta keep thinking about, right. before found an abundant IO ot, though, he built and led WTG World Telecom Group and one of the largest technology services distributors in the us. later selling it to app direct and app smartt and helping run its network services and energy divisions. under his leadership at Abundant IOT. The company introduced its flagship EIOT offering, which was honored as a top IO OT product of 2022 and won Best in show at channel Partners conference and expo, partner program for product awards. Most recently, Vince steered the company into the sustainability and ESG driven space. Gonna talk about that. If you're wondering what ESG is, we'll define that momentarily. launching a consulting arm to help enterprises with their energy transformation journeys. And again, that energy topic, man, if you haven't been paying attention, you're gonna see why it really matters here in a moment. his commentary and vision appear in recent industry coverage on how, IOT energy and, carbon management are converging. so I've taken away enough of his steam already. he lives in Malibu, California with his wife and three daughters. I have three daughters, so I can relate with you there. Vince, do we leave anything out? Does that sound like your background?

Vince -5ede_1_10-28-2025_071624 3:10

Well, you know, thanks Chris. And you know, I, yeah, I mean, I think that's pretty good. It's a lot. we've had a

chris_1_10-28-2025_101623 3:15

Well, You've done a lot.

Vince -5ede_1_10-28-2025_071624 3:18

Yeah. it's exciting though to be on the provider and supplier side. That's a new thing. And then, you know, doing the iot. So, you know, thought about retiring then I thought, yeah, I got one more in me. I got a few more things to do here and at the end of the day, you know, we were the first ones really to tap mobility, going back 20 years right in the channel. And then again we did it again with energy about 15 years ago. So it's exciting and I think, you know. What's not in the bio? I mean, you know, first of all, it's just great to be here on the podcast. I'm a culture musician. I'm a drummer with a band called Run Streaming. I enjoy surfing and playing golf, although, more surfing the web than anything. know, abundance and energy word, and that that's the reason, you know, that's one of the reasons we where IOT's all connected now, right? 10 years ago, solar and LED lighting didn't have sensors, but now everything does. Hence the name Abundant iot, we started off the year with a $1.6 billion deal with 80 million in commissions to the advisor. it's exciting times.

chris_1_10-28-2025_101623 4:23

Yeah, I'd say so. When you just think about the impact, you know, you and, and you're, you're in a very small group of, channel professionals, That kinda got this thing going. And, you know, on that note, where do you see the state of the channel and the industry? what's your observation about the here and now versus, considering your past 20 plus years?

Vince -5ede_1_10-28-2025_071624 4:43

I mean, it's clearly shifting, as you know, the advisors have added cybersecurity, AI or something different than telecom or and cloud, right? We see it a bit differently. We see it like energy is the other big utility other than telecom, right? So it's a utility conversation. As a trusted advisor, it's extremely easy to upsell energy. To telecom clients. that's really kind of the way we look at it. That's when we talk about the state of the channel. What I say is that ultimately we're in a position right now where people are shifting, shifting away from just the old telecom services. Sure, that's a foundation for them, but really what they want to do is say, Hey, we're gonna tap into some of these other areas and, and we feel that energy is a great path for that. So again, state of the channel, I mean, it's. I think in a lot of ways there could never be a better time to be in this channel. we've cracked this wide open and it's so exciting every day when I talk to advisors, they tell me, you know, Vince, thank you so much for cracking energy into the channel. I love this and it's a whole new world for me, and it enables me to, do more with my customers. I'm excited to go to market, right? So that's kinda my perspective. it's a crazy time with AI for sure, right. That's gonna affect all of the channel we're addressing it. So,

chris_1_10-28-2025_101623 6:01

You know, looking back to when you started WTG and you know, kind of got in the channel, you know, as that channel leader, what technologies were you, you know, obviously connectivity is king, right? Was was tech connectivity. your primary only product really, you know, 20 plus years ago,

Vince -5ede_1_10-28-2025_071624 6:17

yeah, I mean, I think back in the day it was the telecom stuff. we were, by the way I will say this, and I should have said it before,

chris_1_10-28-2025_101623 6:23

I.

Vince -5ede_1_10-28-2025_071624 6:24

we were the first ones to get into local. I put in PRI for EarthLink back in the nineties, right? so, and the telecom act of 96 happened. We, we jumped into local services. So we've always been that pioneer in the industry. And, so that, that's kind of how we started off back then, back in the day with the CL differentiating from the gate, right? the, new stuff to the channel, like local services. That was really the first one we brought in. yeah, I mean it's, it was mostly connectivity, although we got into a few things right, over the years, one I just mentioned. Right. It was the, getting into the, I mentioned the mobility earlier, earlier too, right. And then also international. These are some of the things that we did. were kind of a pioneer in the channel was, you know, mobility international and then energy. again, I think that right now it's, it's, it's teed up perfectly upsell that product to the customer base.

chris_1_10-28-2025_101623 7:22

You know that I've been on this mission, on this journey, I don't know, maybe 10 years, right, in terms of wireless and iot. And now this, for me, a new interest in energy. and I've always seen this struggle of, some traditional legacy type telecom channel partners, trust advisors, making that pivot. You know, it's not even a pivot, it's just an expansion, right? To go from yes, you've made your millions selling connectivity in dial tone. Now guess what? There's all these other advanced technologies you need to start looking at. From cloud and cybersecurity, and of course, all the countless CX offerings, of course iot mobility. that's the area that I'm passionate about. And it's fair to say, I think you have a very strong passion for this energy conversation. What was the catalyst? do you remember the time you said, wow, I need to focus on energy more, but was there a trigger or some, aha moment of what the opportunity looked like?

Vince -5ede_1_10-28-2025_071624 8:16

Absolutely. I mean, you know where we're seeing the unique opportunity of the channel is. Is energy, right? That, like I mentioned, an incredible opportunity because first it brings new revenue, Both upfront and recurring. So people get paid now for what they do. and then second, and in my opinion more importantly, is when you upsell energy to your telecom base, the customers don't leave. It's the best retention tool you can have because now you're helping them with two completely different industries and that's invaluable to them. the solution is a perfect fit for enterprise customers. 'cause we can do all kinds of things in buildings to help them too. my favorite recent wins have been IO OT deals because we beat out other IOT providers because we can use the energy savings to defray the capital cost of IOT. So that's been super exciting for us, it's a great way to do more for the customer. Every time, enterprise customers see this solution, they say, where have you been? we've been looking for someone to integrate this stuff and create that EIOT. right place at the right time, I think is a good way to put it. the journey's just starting.

chris_1_10-28-2025_101623 9:23

Yeah.

Vince -5ede_1_10-28-2025_071624 9:24

great opportunity right now on the channel for sure.

chris_1_10-28-2025_101623 9:27

You know, in terms of messaging, you know, this is something that I'm always thinking about. like even just this morning I had this epiphany moment the Great clips. Chain has an app, and you can get in line, you can see what the wait time is. I'll even send you a message based off your geolocation going, Hey, based on your location, if you leave now, by the time you get to the store, you can just walk in and sit down. I mean, what a great. I mean, and that's not a traditional telecom problem that a lot of telecom trusted advisors are to even think about solving who would ever gone to a haircut place and said, Hey, let me help you with technology to increase your customer experience. And oh, by the way, they've seen tremendous revenue growth from this. You know, so trying to get, people to think outside the box in a sense. So what's your messaging, for partners that do find they are that traditional kind of stereotypical. Circuit Slinger connectivity, dial tone, partner, how do they make that change? or how can they add the messaging to their website of, is it simple or do you think it's a little more complex?

Vince -5ede_1_10-28-2025_071624 10:28

It's actually pretty simple and, I love the question because that. really is the message and so many advisors have been so excited to get going, right? Really the message we try to tell them is, I kind of mentioned it before, it's really just everything's connected. Now, about it, like I mentioned, the LED in solar, right? it didn't have sensors 10 years ago, but now it all does, IOT is on their journey, So they have to do iot anyway 'cause customers are asking for it. They wanna solve problems in their facilities. That is a perfect opportunity to just bring energy in and it's literally part of the journey, right? So it's like, okay, customer asks, you know, I have a problem, I have access doors I need to handle, right? I got a hundred access doors I need to handle in my building. temperature, you know, sensors as well. I need leak detection, all these things. Well, you can help 'em with all that stuff and then you can bring the energy services in as well, and that's where it gets super sticky. What I always say is that's the best we've found. That's the best kind of the pitch to add the energy to the conversation is, hey, we've added utilities because it's all connected now. And then you give that example of the solar and LED and IT customers get it and they also love it. And right now, by the way, the market, it's ripe. I mean, you know, I know obviously this will be listened to, you know, for months, but by the time we hit January. Pricing's gonna be like 30% higher. And so right now what we're doing is we're locking customers in with these rates today. even if they have a contract that ends next year. That's one of the unique things about energy. You can sign someone up for a future start date. we're super busy right now, locking customers in because there is no lower point in the next two years for energy pricing. So it's a great time for customers to lock in their rates. Think of a, like a mortgage right? Lock your rate right now is not the time 'cause the prices are going up. So you wanna lock it and, you know, this power crisis is, the prices are going to gonna be double what they were last week at the end of next year, right? So here we go. We need to buckle up and look at this utility in this power crisis and say, hey, this is an opportunity for us in the channel. in my opinion, that's how we kind of position it.

chris_1_10-28-2025_101623 12:43

I love why you, you know, you mentioned that the energy crisis and the, the rates going up in the next 90 days or so. I've been reading a lot of articles about data centers. You know, AI is driving this need for massive data centers. One thing we know data centers need a lot of is water and energy. how is that impacting, customers in that region, area of, of these data centers or, or is it even more of a national impact?

Vince -5ede_1_10-28-2025_071624 13:08

Great question. it's a global impact. Such a hot topic. it really started years ago with the hyperscalers putting tremendous pressure on the data centers even before ai. And then of course you have electrification via EV charging all kinds of other services. Finally, crypto mining is back with the new bill. It's more popular than ever. AI creates projections we haven't seen since the polar vortex only. There's no polar vortex right now. it's this AI curve. it's crazy. And so, you know, I think one of the things that really got me was when you heard, Eric Schmidt, the former CEO of Google, went in front of Congress earlier this year and said that currently today AI comprises 3% of the world's energy, but in just a few years, it's gonna be 99% And it just blows my mind. And ever since I heard that, I've been watching it and it's unbelievable where we're going. there's absolutely a power crisis. A lot of people don't know about it yet. but in a couple, few years, they're definitely going to see it. the grid is dilapidated. it's got problems. we can provide power to data centers even faster than. They can get it from the utility and grid. So I think, in summary, at risk for companies not addressing this crisis, right? traditionally you can see lower pricing in the spring, that's so risky with this AI curve, right?

chris_1_10-28-2025_101623 14:39

Yep.

Vince -5ede_1_10-28-2025_071624 14:40

gonna happen? There's too many things that could cause it to not go back down, in the spring. So again, we're recommending everyone lock in you know, that's really the notion right now. I think that all we need is electricity and natural gas bills we can do the rest. Right. So, you know, that's kind of the high level. it's changing times. Chris, for

chris_1_10-28-2025_101623 15:02

Yep. let's talk a little bit about that, as we're kind of over the hump here. And this has been a great conversation. When partners think about, great, Vince, I want to learn more about energy. partners are used to having a rate card for, different speeds and feeds, and they're used to, these kind of, CX seats or how many phone lines I kind of give us a high level of, what are we actually selling here? I mean, other than. Locking in rates. I know you've mentioned, solar, you've mentioned, ev chargers and even generators. is there a wide range of, offerings or if you were to put in three or four buckets, what would that look like in terms of what's the offering? And by the way, if I'm not mistaken, aren't there some states where maybe there's less options because of regulation?

Vince -5ede_1_10-28-2025_071624 15:44

Absolutely. In fact, a couple things on that. First of all, our ecosystem's a great thing. a picture tells a thousand words, right? And so, that's really an important point is that, seeing that ecosystem really helps. But there's a lot there. I mentioned LED and Solar as a couple examples, but some of the other solutions, like one of my favorite ones by the way, is the Harmonic filter. This thing is incredible. you know, you're actually using 8% more power than you need to before you even turn the light on. we have a device, that actually can help reduce electric by 10 to 20% anywhere in the country. it also protects the equipment. So that one is amazing

chris_1_10-28-2025_101623 16:23

that one's not regulated. There's no limitations there that can be for a customer to save money and cut back on that, consumption of energy in a sense.

Vince -5ede_1_10-28-2025_071624 16:32

It's an incredible device. when we talk about energy efficiency, we talk about how to reduce the use of energy, We're distributed generation and solar. but at the end of the day, you know, a couple more products to include in that would be. electricity and natural gas itself, right in the northeast, Midwest, and Texas. To answer that question, energy is deregulated so you can switch the customer, and that's what we're busy doing right now. we're locking those customers in to protect them from the volatility of this market. that's really a common motion at the moment. in addition to that, along with electricity and natural gas, that's recurring revenue by the way. Which of course we know the technology advisors really love. there's some other products like, water. As it relates to data centers, we can reduce the use of water by 30 to 40%. it's pretty incredible what we can do with that. we address the problem of cavitation, which is essentially air in water. And, it's amazing. You take that air out and it makes a huge difference. There's other things involved, but, the air is one of the big ones. And then you have, energy expense management, at the end of the day, that's a hot product too. You mentioned ESG, which is Environmental and social governance. mainly impact the, ESG. a lot of what we do helps them with that score, That ESG score or rating, of course, investors use to, decide who to invest in. So it's a big deal, especially in the enterprise. Customers don't even know it, but they're, you know, people look at that. It's part of the d and b by the way. ESG is, the ESG rating is on the d and b, and I think a lot

chris_1_10-28-2025_101623 18:01

Did not know that.

Vince -5ede_1_10-28-2025_071624 18:02

So it's really good for them to know, that, d b's looking at that stuff. it makes a big difference as it relates. and then I think some of the final products to, add to the list there would be things like. smart shipping, 24% off FedEx and UPS. I mean, that's also recurring revenue and it's a sustainable product. That's why we have it in the energy division. LED lighting, of course. and HVAC. if people are not cleaning it, we can save them another, like 10%. Which, if you add that to that harmonic filter, now you're 20 to 30% off your electric bill. So there's, we bundle the stuff is a good way to think about it. ev charging still around and no question we can do that too. the takeaway is just get the electric and gas bills from your customers, send them to us and we'll get back to you. We'll tell you there's a lot we can learn from looking at the load in those energy bills.

chris_1_10-28-2025_101623 19:40

That's fantastic. Are you seeing a trend in what the customer use case is? You know, is it, obviously, I guess I would think the more locations, maybe the bigger the revenue opportunity. But are you seeing any trends of like, what would partners look for in terms of a customer, ideal customer profile?

Vince -5ede_1_10-28-2025_071624 19:58

I think, that's a great question. it's interesting because multi-location We can do those services, but like retail, not as much. what we do in a retail space is we put solar on the roof. We have a product that we can monetize the entire mall. So an example of that would be, the mall signs up and everyone in the building gets 10% off their electric bill a turnkey solution on the roof, So you're gonna go to Westfield or the one that gives you 10% off your bill,

chris_1_10-28-2025_101623 20:26

Yeah.

Vince -5ede_1_10-28-2025_071624 20:26

large enterprise is really far the best fit for us, right? So think about, data centers, big commercial, industrial customers. Utilities companies like

chris_1_10-28-2025_101623 20:38

Manufacturing, maybe even the big warehouses,

Vince -5ede_1_10-28-2025_071624 20:41

you, the big warehouses, we can do the iot and the energy and that's, customers love that we do both because they, they others are not doing that. It is very rare to find that can do that. I mean as, and as an example, I think I mentioned it, but use that energy savings to pay for the iot. Which is incredible, right? So, but yeah, I'd say more a focus on facilities. we can do multi-location, for example, like hospitality's huge for us too. So that's a good example of more your multi-location type thing. think of it this way, the bigger the building, the better the chance we can impact them, if that makes sense. We've got malls. To be clear with you, we are doing services. We can do business with just about anyone. are probably the one that is not a fit work with us, though. Enterprise is a perfect fit, mid market's a good fit, and then it just kind of depends. we're starting to see a lot more shifting. Once again, lots of shifting going on And that also includes, you know, looking at consolidation of multi-location. We're starting to see some of that too. And the E IOT is there to catch it.

chris_1_10-28-2025_101623 21:54

Man. Absolutely a lot. That's one. if you don't like change, you're in the wrong business. 'cause a lot of change going on. You know, speaking of change, another unique air. In the channel. I see this uptick in interest and it's because. a lot of the cable codes are opening the doors to mdu, multi-dwelling units. I'm thinking condos, even, apartment complexes, assisted living, that's a big uptick in assisted living. You know, we're living longer. People are needing a place to live. are you seeing opportunities there? Because I would think, you know, with a 300 or 700. Unit, MDU, there's a lot of water waste, electricity, Is that, can that any of these products be kind of angled toward that MDU vertical

Vince -5ede_1_10-28-2025_071624 22:39

great question. MDUs are great because one of the things I will say about energy is that it's good to get in early, And part of the reason why is because, think of commercial real estate for a minute. You know, if you have relationships with commercial real estate, then you can definitely get in there early And you can get in on all of the equipment they may put in the building, et cetera. And so mdu are a great example. We've had some wins in the MDU space, We used the energy savings to help pay for some of that infrastructure cost that the MDU needed to tap. So two examples I can think of. One of 'em was exactly what you said. It was about 450 units. We have a new one we're going into with that was 700 units. The harmonic filter, the EV charging the water solutions. We brought all those in. a massive impact for that customer. And then again, we can help pay for that iot with that savings, right? So it opens the door for these customers. MDUs are very popular today, and that's a great space for us. We do really well on it. Again, it helps that we get in there early with them, right? Um, as they're developing, so, or renovating, right. Those are two good times to get in with them.

chris_1_10-28-2025_101623 23:53

Well, Vince, we've talked about a lot in a short time. I am grateful for the time. I love this topic. like you mentioned, we're gonna be meeting again, here in a week or so. check the show notes, folks. There will be a link to, upon the IOT's website and any other information, the graphic that he mentioned earlier about their ecosystem. I'll make sure there's a link on there and the show notes. so as wrap up, Vince, any last words for us? Anything you wanna leave us with? Is there anything we haven't discussed that we need to hit on?

Vince -5ede_1_10-28-2025_071624 24:19

You know, I think we talked about a lot, to your point. I think it's going back to that, what I started off with and just, the opportunity in the channel. This is a different level of opportunity for the channel today. I talked about that big deal, right? 1.6 billion, 80 million in commissions to the technology advisor. I couldn't be more excited about that, right? Over the next three years. this is a completely different level and you increase the retention, right? this is just one of those inflection points. Chris, in my opinion, it's, bringing energy into the channel. I mean, it's definitely filled us up and, you know, we're starting to see a lot of activity in the channel. but it's one of those things where it's not, it's an opportunity to not only monetize the relationships with the customer. But also to increase the value with them and keep them right. So, but I think the last thing I would say would be, just to, to take a look at your, you know, your base and say, Hey, look, you know, where, who do I wanna be when I grow up? You know, do I wanna work on the cyber? I'm I gonna work on the cx? Am I gonna focus on the ai? Well, if it's, if it's ai, or if it's energy, some of those things that we're doing, we can help impact that. help customers to go to the next level, right? So at the end of the day, the times are changing we're at the forefront of that. You know, we're really,

chris_1_10-28-2025_101623 25:37

Yeah, you are.

Vince -5ede_1_10-28-2025_071624 25:38

shifting everything right now. And, yeah, that's kind of the high level. I mean, again, it could be more excited about things where they're going, into 26 and to help, you know, address this and make a massive impact on the channel

chris_1_10-28-2025_101623 25:52

Yep.

Vince -5ede_1_10-28-2025_071624 25:52

with customers.

chris_1_10-28-2025_101623 25:53

as you were talking, Vince, and I appreciate that. I agree with you. it's always good to end where we started because it matters. But I've been having a debate with some colleagues and channel friends. I'd love to get your take on something. and for the record, I think I'm on the fence with this. I don't know which side I'm going, but the concept of, trusted advisors. you know, being an expert generalist, being able to sell across the tech stack versus some technologists, some trusted advisors are like, look, I just do cx. I'm just going to do call center as a service. That's all I'm gonna do. Meanwhile, they're passing up all these revenue opportunities because they said, I'm going all in with one part of the tech stack. then occasionally you run into that one that's very open mind. They're like, Hey, I'll sell anything that pays the commission. what's your observation of partners, do you see more of them as generalists selling everything? or do you see partners that are like, I only wanna do cybersecurity and, and there's, I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing to be like an expert specialist versus an expert generalist. What are your thoughts on that?

Vince -5ede_1_10-28-2025_071624 26:59

I love this question. And you know what I would say before I even answer the question is I would offer out to those people, I literally sat down with an advisor two weeks ago at an event, and he was like, know, energy, we just don't understand it. I told him, I go, well, you don't have to. It's selling energy is easier than selling telecom, right. So really what you're doing is you're adding value to your customer and you're increasing the retention. But the important point I would make about it is that, just say you don't even want to get into it. You're like, okay, look, I just, I don't have time for it, or I don't feel comfortable engaging on it. There's another way, like we have a referral program where you can just literally hand off someone and say, Hey, look, I don't wanna do the energy myself, but. If you'll support me in it, then we can basically get you in a situation where you'll get paid on it you won't have to really do anything.

chris_1_10-28-2025_101623 27:52

Right.

Vince -5ede_1_10-28-2025_071624 27:53

But I would also go back to the question and just say ultimately, you know, the generalist conversation versus the specific I think obviously it's important to be. Focused on something, And be a SME in it, right? A subject matter expert so that you can feel comfortable going to market and focusing on that as you go to market. I also think it's important to have that backup. We call it The killer app. The affiliate partner program. And what it is is essentially just the ability for you to just put a lead in to say, Hey look, my customer's interested in energy and you can just put it in there. You don't have to do anything. will literally support you on the whole journey. Just pay you. So my point is, that increases retention. I know it's not for everyone, but I would say that, we have, a double digit number of advisors doing this today with great success. it's a great way to not only monetize your base and retain it at the same time Right. Without even really needing to jump into it.

chris_1_10-28-2025_101623 28:53

That's right.

Vince -5ede_1_10-28-2025_071624 28:53

I really think, it is good to have that laser focus and we have a lot of advisors that are now focusing on energy of like a CX or a cyber or something like that, right? my answer would be good to focus, but also good to have the other stuff to catch in your net right. To not lose that business and not lose customers is a good way to put it.

chris_1_10-28-2025_101623 29:14

That's right. I love it. That's exciting times as you mentioned. I love every minute of it. thanks again. I really appreciate your time today. check the show notes, folks. There'll be a lot of information there. Appreciate your events.

Vince -5ede_1_10-28-2025_071624 29:27

Thanks so much and thanks everyone for joining.

chris_1_10-28-2025_101623 29:29

You bet. glad you made it. be sure to check out the website, the wireless way.net. if, a customer or a colleague popped in your mind as you were listening, be sure to share this episode with them. Call that customer. again, in the show notes, there'll be ways how you can get ahold of, Vince and his team in Abundant iot. thanks so much and we'll see you next time on the Wireless Way.